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Kram

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I've seen some 650 baseplates swapped for the standard ones, they look a lot better. I got these mint condition 580's I got a while back. 

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I used to covet 580s when they came out. Got my first set about 35 yrs later, mint like yours.
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ACS 580's was their competitor to the Tracker Mid. I'm saving my set for when I get hold of a MK2 Bowlrider.  
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I picked up these not long ago. 

 

NOS ACS651s....  the Black/Gold edition.

 

Never skated... never even mounted.  Original rubbers..  never tightened.  They had a few tiny chips on the gold when I got them, but I'm a deft hand with a brush at building up layers of lacquer to fix such things.  Literally as new now.

 

They'll be going on a Warptail 2 when it's restored.






 

Not sure if the bushings are hardened yet...  hard to tell unless you actually use them.  These are just too nice to skate though, so probably irrelevant.  I already have a pair of used 651s to actually use. 

808

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Beautiful trucks! I have a set of banged up 580s and a set of 651s ✌️
Pook

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Palydaxjones
Someone recently posted: There is no Vintage ACS Trucks Page...
Well Here Ya Go :------)

My Collection approx 1976-mid 1979.....

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Early baseplates were figure 8 chrome shape on 430 & 500 series....
ACS 430s I believe were first issued approx 1976 with full thread axles.

Sizes varied small hanger width to larger; 430, 500, 580, 650 (fat base plate) 651s....
Followed by several other ACS series later 1979-1980s.
Do not know when ACS closed their doors or bought out.

Interesting info: many skate shop dealers put black metal ACS truck base plates on Bennett Trucks because
the plastic Bennett base plates broke. To prevent kids from coming back in for Mr Bennett replacement program, 
often  dealers/skateshops simply put on ACS metal base plates!! (Mr Bennett would replace broken, for free, but might take month or longer my info :----)....
That is why sometimes seems like the ACS black base plate is OG to the Bennett Trucks when I am restoring them 35yrs later.. Cause they are!!!

ANY OTHER ACS Knowledge, History, or pictures, POST EM UP!!!

ACS magazine ad... Early 1977-ish I believe.....
The picture of the ACS 650 suggests early 1977 ad and note all series of ACS picture have black base plates.... 
No earlier issued figure 8 chrome for 430s & 500s....
*** I suspect the Gold 430s and 500s always came with Black Baseplates, no idea when first issued though....
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The figure 8 plate was still available in May 1977, as this ad shows, from Skateboard! Magazine.  (British magazine).  The black plate was was referred to by ACS as the "Pro" baseplate.

 

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Beautiful trucks! I have a set of banged up 580s and a set of 651s ✌️

 

I also have a "working" set of 651s for actually using  😉

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Sorry didn't see it.
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Is it cool to add to an eight year old thread? Probably not, I'm new here so here goes:
Are there any modern urethane alternatives/close enough commercially available rubbers that would look or pass for ACS originals? I've rebuilt a set of 651's, this is the last piece to replace.
I spent hours looking at rubber brewing bungs with holes in the middle that where damn close and had a similar colour, just not quite right! 
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ACS bushings come up on eBay now and then.
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Some of the members here will have the odd set. Else, steam some modern ones into the right shape, and they'll mold in.
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Gibbs when Bennett first re-issued their trucks they came with rubber (rubber looking) bushes that looked really close to the OG bushes. They then switched to a red urethane version. If you could find some of those original bushes you would be set, they are the closest I have seen to a OG rubber bushing.
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Gibbs

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Thanks guys, ooh the Bennett re-issues, didn't think of them, I think they are out of production again, I'll see what is out there... I've got a set of suregrip transparent ruby barrel bushings in them now but they don't look "right" and are far too hard at 93a. Another thought on this was to get soft red bushings and sandpaper or wire wool the surfaces to loose the shine and puff some talcum powder on them.
ACS 580's look like they had red urethane bushings at some point:  
http://www.jsctech.co.uk/skateboard/is007/images/page%20042.jpg
http://www.jsctech.co.uk/skateboard/is007/images/page%20043.jpg
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Last night I read the following page in that issue of Skateboard! mag, I was wrong, the improved bushings where soft red rubber not 'thane. The lighting in the studio makes them look different. I'll see if I can get proper rubbers. Go original or go home. [rolleyes]
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 @Gibbs

Bennett re-issues are clear red urethane, and not really convincing for a period correct set up.

I use them on a set of ACS 651 for cruising on, and they fit great...  and work great, but are not convincing in the slightest.

 

BTW...  93A is NOT hard for truck bushings..  there's no real comparison between durometer for wheels and bushings.  93A is bushings is fairly soft unless you're very light.

Here's my old 651s with Bennett bushings in.  Work great, but don't look period correct.

Here's my mint condition NOS 651s with original, unfaded mint condition bushings.

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