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judahman

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but check out how skewed the tax-code's become in favoring the mega rich over the middle-class. The middle-class have been paying more proportionately and getting less in terms of real earnings relative to living costs. that's a fact. the US has the greatest disparities between the top 3% and the rest of any country in history.
And please no more of this fake argument of we shouldn't be paying taxes at all, re Biloxxi. The rich make their bucks using the infrastructure and institutions of this country, so they ought to pay back more. Other countries are getting way ahead in terms of education cause they put their tax dollars to use in funding it. And I'm sick of people calling that socialism when look at how we're subsidizing the rich, with the bail-out and the skewed tax breaks.
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If Obama gets in there, with a muslim Dad from Kenya,its gonna take the wind out of the terrorists sails. Symbolically at least its gonna show the world that America doesn't just preach tolerance and equal opportunity, it practices it. 

At least he's not going to be making policy based on what the Rapture/ End Times folks say is in the bible.


How many times has Obama insisted that he was raised a Christian and is a Christian?  Are middle eastern muslims really going to identify with him?  If Obama is being truthful about what he believes, then I have to believe it has some significant influence in his life and with his decision-making.

On the other hand, there is an e-mail cirrculating saying that Obama has received all kinds of financial support over the years from Arab muslims.  But, then, isn't Bush all budddy-buddy with the Saudis too?  Man, it's all messed up.

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I guess we can tell who the fat cats on the forum are. You know the ones making over $200K a year, cause they are supporting McSame.

Vote for Obama and you get a tax cut. Vote for McSame, your boss boss boss does. Yeah that guy cares about you.....NOT

THINK for once.

When did capitalism become a sin? (If you work hard and make your money fairly). Everyone in this country has the inherit opportunity to join the wealthy fat cat club, that is the great thing about this country. I don't understand the jealousy that drives people to condemn successful people. Your boss may have worked very hard to get where he is at. Aspire to, don't denigrate. 


I'm a free market capitalist. NEVER EVER have I said anything but that. You work your money is yours. Do what you wish with it. Tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas. Fuck no. Tax breaks for investing in new technology and workers here in the US, Fuck YEAH!

Our economy grows under democratic white house, history has proven this time and time again. Look at the blunders of the last 8 years, look at the WASTE Iraq is and all for what. We took out some tin pot dictator and Osama Bin Laden is still living in caves. Fucking Saddam was hding in a hole in the ground and we found him, we can;t find OBL? $10B a month.......ARGH, FUCK, BARF!


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I guess we can tell who the fat cats on the forum are. You know the ones making over $200K a year, cause they are supporting McSame.

Vote for Obama and you get a tax cut. Vote for McSame, your boss boss boss does. Yeah that guy cares about you.....NOT

THINK for once.

When did capitalism become a sin? (If you work hard and make your money fairly). Everyone in this country has the inherit opportunity to join the wealthy fat cat club, that is the great thing about this country. I don't understand the jealousy that drives people to condemn successful people. Your boss may have worked very hard to get where he is at. Aspire to, don't denigrate. 


Last time I checked, there were on so many fat cat positons on the board...somebodies gotta do the labour while you ride their backs...

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If anyone thinks that either side will cutting taxes for anyone after this bailout.. well, there is this bridge for sale...

A pre-election "plan", (read advertisement), however "good" it sounds, is only suitable for wiping one's ass and for herding sheep.

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From a friend of mine:

Obama's "Wealth Redistribution" Plan (in layman's terms) -

In a local restaurant my server had on an Obama ‘08 pin, I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Since he supported Obama, I figured I would use Obama's plan on him to see if he really agrees with it or is just another lemming following the "Obama Herd".

So when the bill came I decided not to tip him and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept that he supported and proudly displayed on his button.

He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone whom I deemed more in need; the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight mumbling bad things under his breath.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $15 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more and that is the ideology the server supported and believed in. The homeless guy was extremely grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.


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Sorry I was having a bad day & am sick of every time I turn on the TV it's all that BS!!!


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Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.


And then say this : "President Palin".

Our country is divided.

1/2 think Obama is a muslim and they don't mind that Palin thinks cavemen rode around on dinosaurs and that the VP is in charge of the Senate.

The other 1/2 think McCain is old and unbalanced and Palin is dumber/more dangerous than Bush.

Who's right ?

I guess we'll find out and I for one don't think this is a runaway.

I think the left is going to be very surprised...

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but Lyc. re-distribution of wealth has been going on since the 70's, its just not called that, cause folks like you think its all natural when its flowing disproportionately upwards. Bottom line is this : do you really think that wage earners are paid what their labour is truly worth? Plumber wants to charge $80 bucks an hour and everybody bitches and moans, Jack Welch was getting $10,000 an hour while running the company into the ground. Now crack open a book on economics and you'll find various theories, such as the Free Markets are the best mechanism for evening out these differences, good idea, except as we've all seen it doesn't work. The climate of big business has , I'm sure you've noticed, gone far off the meter in terms of anything resembling ethical behavior. The exec.s make money by literally raping the company's in the short term, firing workers, artificially boosting share value for the stock holders, re: Enron, often by hiding bad debts. Now you want to reward that behavior with your taxes you go ahead. I think the waiter, trying to get by on subsistence wages deserves more for WORKING, whether in the form of lower payroll taxes or better benefits, so he doesn't need to become homeless if he suffers an injury or illness and can't pay his bills. Maybe things are great where you're at, but some of your own bros on the forum have mentioned they've racked up bills from medical, so I think your pov is rather short-sighted.
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I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
 
Bullshit. The Reagan administration was responsible for enacting the Earned Income Tax Credit, an extremely successful redistribution program which returns money to the working poor. I suppose McCain forgot about that part...and you republicans, did you forget as well what your hero did?

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Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.



Or don't be lemming and listen to your propaganda bullshit either.
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People who make 40-50 grand a year dont even Fuckin pay tax they get it all back at the end of the year

If  I make over 200 why the fuck should I get penalized by paying more Tax thats the most Fucked up thing Ive ever heard of.

People say the rich dont pay shit because they wright everything off does anyone making that statement ever stop to think that they had to spend money for the wright off and that money spent keeps the economy going

( buy a summer house pay the realtor pay the painter pay the carpet guy pay the illegal gardener OH yeah he pays no tax but fuck it hell get some from obama


Oh yeah     more people have died in the gang violance last year in Chicago than died in Iraq




 

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I will be so glad when next week is over and there wont be any more vote for me ad's and vote yes and no for these fucking prop's. I am ready for some infomercials agian!
Who ever wins the other side will be pissed and in a year from now we will all be pissed one way or another so what dose it matter.  Congress will fuck up what the President dose'nt. It's the nature of the beast!

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