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Perhaps if we leave a trail of Guinness, the Big Dawg will share some more stories?


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Sneed U Bastard, good talking to Ya!   

Yea a few year's ago we did some stuff for Fuel TV & TA, PC, Ray & I were all in the BDS warehouse & talking it would be good to have 3, 4 of us to all talk about that stuff cuz it's like anything,  one would remember part's others didn't... Then Oh Yea.....




Wes



........what??.........no Stacy???



talking shit(joking) about legends is encouraged here?

weird.

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Sneed U Bastard, good talking to Ya!   

Yea a few year's ago we did some stuff for Fuel TV & TA, PC, Ray & I were all in the BDS warehouse & talking it would be good to have 3, 4 of us to all talk about that stuff cuz it's like anything,  one would remember part's others didn't... Then Oh Yea.....




Wes



........what??.........no Stacy???



talking shit(joking) about legends is encouraged here?

weird.

He's Wes' buddy.......I just wondered why he wasn't there?


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Mmm. Guinness on tap. All I've got is the ghetto beer, Old Milwaukee tall boy.
 
Thought I'd push my luck while Wes is in a talkative mood and ask about
the design process, whether its changed over the years. Did you and Jim do laminated prototypes before going into production on the early DTS boards, or did you just go for it? How did you find a good manufacturer?
  I know from my own experience with chair design that drawings will
only take you so far; anything that people interact with has got to be mocked up
and taken to full scale. So the process can get time consuming and expensive.
Personally I try to keep in mind something that the Danish designer Hans Wegner said about full-scale models: 
 "...if you make a model it must happen quickly, otherwise it's no use. " 
  I think he means that if you spend too much time and money on such things that you'll be inhibited from changing it later.
Any thoughts on any of this?
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Perhaps if we leave a trail of Guinness, the Big Dawg will share some more stories?

Reminds me of the James Woods episode on Family Guy. Ooh glass of beer! Ooh glass of beer! Ooh glass of beer!


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OK let Me think AKA Knock the Dust Off, but I think there a Ton more to " chair design"...



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It's funny that no magazine/medium/format/repository has developed to look at skating history (other than this forum). Something along the line of "surfers journal. Then again, Maybe it's better this way. Look what surfers journal has become.
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OK let Me think AKA Knock the Dust Off, but I think there a Ton more to " chair design"...



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Dats why you drinkin Guinness while poor me drinks Old Milwaukee.
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Been working all day & my brain feels like toast but I'm still thinking....




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Killer insight again, Wes. Diggin it!

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I know a book is a huge amount of work, but a 'backstage' look at the whole DTS/BDS adventure? I'D BUY THAT! You and Jim's (and Ray's?) perspective on the boards and the stories the surround 'em would be a mind blower. "The Birth & (re)Birth of Wide"? Don't get me wrong, the Bulldog Concrete Wave thing was great to showcase your art and that fancy Burning Flags Press DT book was great for the memories from photos and reprints, but there's so much more to your story.  Maybe it's just this ripping thread (or the Session Dark Lager I'm drinking), but I'd think that's a no-brainer to sell quite a few copies.
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Glad everyone seems to be enjoying the thread.
I just like hearing about the human process of design,
not the art-speak or theory much, but the real and often
unpredictable paths things take once the desire to make something
starts rolling. Sometimes the best stuff happens when the conscious
part of the brain gets out of the way and one is open to discovery.
If it all went according to plan,where would the fun be in that?

Of course custom furniture design is distinct from what Wes does.
But there are some cool links, like learning in depth about what
the material can and cannot do. Wood as an engineering material.

I can't recommend that Hans Wegner book enough, even if one doesn't 
get into Danish Modern. He was a trained cabinetmaker first and a designer
second, so he really knew how to design stuff that could be built in
logical and beautiful ways.  Its kinda sad that most of the trained designers
one meets, don't know much about how things are built or the physical
properties of different materials.

With the emphasis on computers now, especially for kids, I wish the schools
could provide more of the tactile experience of using different materials, wood,
metals, composites.  Something a step up from shop class would be nice.

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