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 This is a good read, the story goes back to 1976. Many thanks to Steve Kane and everything he has ever printed, he also did 70's product reviews in the late 80's in the UK Skateboard! mag, an early education for us who missed the boat first time round, I'm still intrigued by those now. 
Hey TonyB, I'm never offering to dry up in your kitchen, I might put a pan in the wrong cupboard[biggrin]
Fair point though, by rights I should move the wood rails post out of set ups too.
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Definitely a great read. I do remember the "before kicktails" time era. I also built a wedge block kick tail deck in woodshop 1977. There's lots of modern deck choices today that would allow you to choose from to "reshape to your liking". That could be very fun to build with so many wheelbases, concaves, and rocker styles to choose from.
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Cheers Andy, there is loads of things to be made from a deck with no cracks, but with mashed ends. The one I made back in the 90's started off like the one above (I'll post a pic soon), I cut extensions from snapped boards so I could make the wheelbase bigger just added them on as extended risers using two sets of truck bolts. I then cut a bolt on kick tail, the thing got silly in the end. There is some footage of this monstrosity being skated by me in a bowl somewhere...    


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Cheers Andy, there is loads of things to be made from a deck with no cracks, but with mashed ends. The one I made back in the 90's started off like the one above (I'll post a pic soon), I cut extensions from snapped boards so I could make the wheelbase bigger just added them on as extended risers using two sets of truck bolts. I then cut a bolt on kick tail, the thing got silly in the end. There is some footage of this monstrosity being skated by me in a bowl somewhere...    



A pic would be great. I'd enjoy seeing it. Nothing was disposable or throw away in my upbringing. Repurpose everything!
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Here's my version, I have nothing but love for the rom, it's a Brand X sticker given to me by Martin Wager back in the day, it had to go on this!

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Oh yeah! That looks like a lot of fun! Makes me want to hunt down some more parking garages!
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Mine was made from a retired Popsicle deck some time in the 90's, so the wheel base is only 14", makes it very whippy on turns, I'm very happy with that. A more "rootsy" deck, utterly thrashed would make a deck with a longer W/B. In the article he suggests cutting down old Powell Xtra tough (boneite) decks, nowadays most would go NOOOOOO! at that.
I wonder what the BDS beamer version would ride/look like... Holy shit![eek]

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Mine was made from a retired Popsicle deck some time in the 90's, so the wheel base is only 14", makes it very whippy on turns, I'm very happy with that. A more "rootsy" deck, utterly thrashed would make a deck with a longer W/B. In the article he suggests cutting down old Powell Xtra tough (boneite) decks, nowadays most would go NOOOOOO! at that.
I wonder what the BDS beamer version would ride/look like... Holy shit![eek]


The beamer might be the coolest one yet! Better length wheelbase anyway. The one you did is pretty darn cool as it is. There's gotta be a few old shreded decks at my closest physical skate shops in Midland. They might even hang onto one for me for nothing if I'm lucky. I've bought enough stuff from them for them to consider it anyway. At least it's worth a shot.

I have one of the old Variflex Hi-Tail decks that has pretty much become not worth anything else. I might be able to trim enough of the delam areas away to make it useful. Some on the side, and a bunch from the tail. Might have to relocate the rear trucks forward. It's 16.250 or so wheelbase and 28.5" long now.

This deck I believe is from the era after they really went commercial in the very late 70's or early 80's. It came with the ACS900 trucks and come non cored Orange Variflex dubcons. They look just like the BDS dubcons or the older Dogtown dubcons in shape. They're about 61mm now. Probably started at 64mm? Not sure. With some dependable trucks, it might make a decent cruiser. It's delamed pretty far up the tail. And next to the new to me Holt, the Holt really dwarfs it in length.







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Yes, get some abandoned decks from your skateshop, preferably one from a kid who ground the nose and tail down but hasn't got the hang of boardslides yet! To cut out, a jig-saw is good, a band saw is better if you can get access to one. 
According to the art of skateboarding website, the Hi-tail was issued 1984, if this is your last rider, I would restore it, it is possible to get that back from the grave. get some titebond III in the loose plies feeding it in deep with a thin craft knife or a steel ruler and clamp tightly with G-cramps and blocks of wood to get them flat again. The graphics are fairly checker-board so masking and spray painting should work, painting with acrylics by hand is tricky, thinning the paint to form "washes" is the way to avoid leaving brush strokes in the finish, also marker pens to do outlines works for me. All takes time to do a good job but it's worth it, and don't rush it! Check the restoration corner on this website, it's utter inspiration. Also this guy does wonderful work too, but he chooses to screen print the graphics back: 
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/wax-the-coping-jesse-garza-the-deck-restorer/

If the link doesn't work, copy and paste into a new tab. It's throwing a fit my end[misc3]




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Oh wow. That guy is good! I'm not sure I would go to that expense to fully restore it on this Variflex deck. Maybe only enough to repurpose it enough to ride it. It really isnt worth anything to a collector for that model, I'd think? I've got a few clamps, saws, etc to get it glued and reshaped, but not sure if that old dirty wood will hold the glue. You're probably right in looking for another better shape abandoned deck from the skate shop. Safer bet time and $$ wise.
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I just got a variflex striker el cheapo set up for the tracker extrack copies today (might be funny!), I wouldn't restore the deck on this one. It's one from the "made in Taiwan" days and certainly is not maple or anything like. Yours is earlier, maybe it's of better wood?
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