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Why do people refer to Hosoi as Holmes? The first time I remember seeing it was on this message board, not saying that this was the first time.

If its short for "homeboy", than shouldnt it be "Homes"?

As far as I can tell, the etymology of "homeboy" as referring to one as a friend dates to the 40's. It was either Pachuco or Jive in derivation. It appears even earlier but not having the same meaning.

 

The Pachuco style and Jive have its roots in Jazz. Lester Young, the great saxophonist is the first guy to call his friends "man". As in "Hey man. can you spot me a fin?"

 



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You and your etymology!

 

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        He got the nickname holmes thats all I ve ever known to call him,when he was on the bloodshot tour with the flectchers thats what they called him!

its in the juice article I think how he got the name


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correct me if im wrong. but i think its written that way because to emphasize a spanish accent.



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Sweepa...fix the font size. You're killing us bro.



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correct me if im wrong. but i think its written that way because to emphasize a spanish accent.

The "L" doesnt emphasize a Spanish, Mexican, Chicano, Latino, Pachuco or Cholo accent

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Perhaps it was after Sherlock, due to his unprecedented detective skills.

I've wondered the same thing Soulskater.
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I remember Christian allways calling people "Holmes" in the 80s. Maybe that's why everybody started refering to him as that. I never gave it any thought until now, so it's just a guess.


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Not sure about the history of Christian Hosoi's nickname of "Holmes", but I do know that the term "Holmes" was a BIG 80's word that was bestowed upon friends.

 

A good example of this is in Powell Peralta's "Search for Animal Chin" where ... "Maps to the skater's homes!" turns to "Maps to the skater's ... HOLMES!"

 

In Hawaii (in the 80's) we used "Holmes" all the time to fellow skater buds!  As far as I know it was used as a term of endearment for "Holmes" as in Sherlock Holmes meaning that the person skating (or friend) was a "Master" of whatever he was doing; like Sherlock Holmes was a "Master" of solving crimes.


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My question isnt why he is called "Homes", my question is in regards to the spelling. The concensus seems to be that "Homes" was/is used in reference to a friend. If that is the case, then we can correctly assume that it is derived from "homeboy". That leads me to the spelling. It should be "homes" not "holmes". As a kid we too used the term. I always thought it was a Cholo thing to call your friend/fellow gang member your "homeboy" wich led us to "homie" and also "homes".

 

Got it, Homes?

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After talking with one of my buddies (from the 80's whom I skated with often), I was half right (in his explanation anyway.)

 

A common thing to say in the 80's (and now from what I gather) is for someone concuring to stating the obvious -- I'm sure you've all heard it before...  "NO SHIT SHERLOCK!"  That in turn calling someone "Sherlock" was more or less a put-down - where the opposite of calling someone "Holmes" was a positive - or something to that affect, it also reflected "Homie" as a similie (sp?).  Regardless it was definitely widely used, like I stated before - check out Animal Chin video.

 

Yeah, I know... sounds pretty stupid, but it does make sense when I think back to the verbage we used back then.  I mean shit... in the 80's, "Gag me with a spoon!" was supposed to be a big phrase for valley folk... LOL

 

"Holmes" spelling in Hawaii was definitely NOT a cholo thing since there were very few around where we were.  Mostly Filipino, Japanese, Chinese, Samoans and Hawaiians - not too many spanish speaking in that crowd.... but again, I reiterate... that's Hawaii's "Holmes" explanation as far as I (and my friend Matt) can remember.


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Simply because, he was Christian...! His buds called him that, so I, having met him only twice, and immediately, as I stood within "Close- Talking" distance, discerned quickly that he was the consumate and coolest, self-confidant stylemonger professional that walked the planet after the T.A. & Jay, ....period.
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holmes ....homes .......helms....hommmmieeeeeee.......

 

helmsqueeks.........halms........

 

 

humphry........homesheezle.......and the ever so

 

popular " hommie dont cha no me "

 

 

its bro talk at the brofest table      

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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This may not help explain anything, but people said "holmes" at my high school here in down east NC in the mid-80s too, and they were all white good ol' boy types. None of them were skaters as far as I know, could be wrong about that though.

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home-fry, home-skillet, home-squeeze, too.

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