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FakieMaster

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People often ask, "How do you tell apart the different Independent Truck stages?" Independent's book, "BUILT TO GRIND" has some general information on the major changes over the years, but not much detail. Maybe this forum can be a place to fill in the blanks.

Since there are 9 stages, I'm going to start off in the middle with Stage V.
The Stage V (stage 5) is an important part of skateboard history. It was the first truck with hollowed-out hanger bottoms. Designed with the help of Steve Caballero and Lance Mountain. See the book "Built to Grind" for more details on that story.

It's easy to tell a Stage V apart from the earlier Indy's by the major changes in hanger shape and the hollowed-out hanger bottoms.

The two differences between Stage VI and V that I'm aware of are 1) Stage VI (stage 6) had a reduced amount of metal on top of the hanger. This makes them shorter than stage V. 2) I believe all Stage VI changed to black pivot cups. Stage V had red pivot cups.

 

A question maybe someone else knows the answer to:
At what Stage did Indy’s change from a barrel bushing on bottom to a conical bushing?



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I thought I would repost this here. Maybe pieces to the puzzle can be collected over time.

5 1/4" = 131-33mm, which = Indy 131
5 3/4" = 143-45mm, which = Indy 151
6 1/2" = 163-65mm, which = Indy 169

As far as I can tell anyway....

"His mind clearly altered, Jay grabbed a calculator and measured the truck hangers in inches, then converted them to millimeters using a formula pulled from 'memory.' All of his calculations were inaccurate, of course, but he insisted, 'They are correct. We are done. Let's go!' None of the founders argued--they were each under the influence of their own substance of choice that evening--and the sizes were set."

Below is a picture of a 131, a 151 and a 169 stage I truck; front to back. The view is a little distorted because of the perspective caused by them being behind each other.

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Raoul,

Man that splash Alva is sick! Dam dude .. love the Olson SC in the background! Appreciate the Indy tips. Gotta go Stage One! Erik .. talk to me! Rule!

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Thanks joepa,

The splash is pretty worn out, but has a cool vibe to it.  Interesting the front truck was mounted crooked.  So all of those miles on the deck were made while riding on it crooked.  As such, I can't take those trucks off it.




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Very cool. Are you the original owner? You gotta be proud that ya rode an OG Splash. I have the reissue. One of my faves. Sick design! Love that Steve Olson Deck!!!!! GRAIL!!!i
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the FIRST Indys...
The reason the company was named Independent...tucked under the pivot are 2 set screws that adjust how independent each axle moves...







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I think it's more the way they explode and do flips in the air. You just can't get that same "flip" when shooting tomato paste cans. Same explosion but...no flip.


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Now there's some history!  Mike, thanks for sharing the details on that truck.  Look at the whole company name spelled out on the baseplate, too.

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Check the fold-outs on pgs 26 and 27 of the "Built To Grind" book...


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I think it's more the way they explode and do flips in the air. You just can't get that same "flip" when shooting tomato paste cans. Same explosion but...no flip.
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Indy 169 Stage 1 NOS with copers.

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Check the fold-outs on pgs 26 and 27 of the "Built To Grind" book...



I love Olson's comments in Built To Grind about those trucks."... and these fuckin rocker arm things the fuck off. Lose the suspension and make it wider, and you got a sick truck."

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Now there's some history! Mike, thanks for sharing the details on that truck. Look at the whole company name spelled out on the baseplate, too.

SDO


Nah. Those came later for me. My Tri-logo looked even worse. The splash belonged to some kid who did all of that damage at upland.

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My 169s




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the FIRST Indys...
The reason the company was named Independent...tucked under the pivot are 2 set screws that adjust how independent each axle moves...







 Thanks Mike, I always wondered what Olsen, and Hackett, and Blackhart were referring to when they tried to describe the "Independet Steering" of their concept truck.
 Now I have the answer !
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in those pictures of the Stage I Indy 169's, you can see why they
turned so well.
Look at the angle of the hanger to the baseplate. STEEP geometry.
bitchin'.
co


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