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FakieMaster

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Does surfing really need kick-flips? I'm not a surfer, but I enjoy watching surfing videos and movies. However, kick-flips on surf boards just does not do it for me. Seems to not fit in with waves.

 


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like to see him try that at Pipeline...

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Well, as always a matter of taste. If you can do it, do it. To each his own. But, and that might be old-fashioned, I for one also think that aerials and stuff in waves most times look just out of place, because inharmonic and against the flow of the wave. Sometimes it looks just about ridiculous, when surfers try to put one awkward snap after the other in a wave, looking slow and strained doing it, while the wave actually provides the height, speed, shape to do more round, smooth moves with speed out of each turn. I never liked this "put as much unnecessary moves in a wave as possible" surfing.

But as said, my point of view and aesthetic might be old-fashioned among all those "take your skatepark tricks to the ocean" surfers...
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I'm with you on that knock2, but pretty cool that it could be done.
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It all comes down to "contest" surfing vs. "Soul" surfing. I'm old school and personally love the old flow style. That's why I used to make my own longboards back in the day. For me, there was nothing sweeter than to see someone pop out of a barrel at Pipe pulling a "Soul Arch." When the contest format became more about points/max # of moves per wave, surfing changed. I understand that when money gets involved, you have to have a standard to measure by. I also respect the skill & ability it takes to innovate and pull off moves that elevate that standard. That kick flip move does that.....
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I'm trying to learn to surf the kick flip not on the short list, but it's cool it can be done. Hopefully pro surfing is not going in that direction ?
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Ariels, 360's, rodeo airs..... it's been going that way for some time. It's all about max points per wave. With any luck, some day it will become like ice skating ( ?? ) they will give points for style as well as technical.
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It's evolution. While I prefer power surfing and think some of the new school tricks guys are doing on waves look lame at times, it is all progression. And you have to have respect for progress...Boardsports are not stagnant, if you want stagnant sports play ball sports. Where is the evolution there. While I don't know why a kickflip would be a functional maneuver ever on a wave, it looked cool and he rode out of it straight into another maneuver. It's also really cool that all boardsports can share maneuvers and offer an integrated style and approach to those who do them all. 
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I am the soul-lyist old school guy there is when it comes to original straight ahead surfing...that shit Jordy Smith was attempting during a contest ('superman' move) looked absolutely stupid....but that being said, at least the dude above pulled it clean, keeping trim & ended with traditional lip smack.....I think if you can incorporate some 'new school' moves CLEANLY, with traditional rail surfing, that looks cool.....That shit like putting 'obsticles' in the shorebreak like rails a such, is forced & stupid, IMHO.....


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Personally when you put down Progression of a sport it makes you the Old fart

That being said  I am more into the fluid Soulfull  surfing

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Looks like a quick way to get a rail to the crotch...


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Im a huge fan of Terry Fitzgerald, knowing this is a USA forum but, he rides and speaks so much truth. To me, these things are circus tricks but, surfing is always an individual affair, so all well and good if you can
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Those tricks are done on small waves most of the time.  The pros have to compete in all conditions and a lot of the times they have to compete in small waves or slop.  There is not much else to do in those situations.  When you see larger waves, or gnarly surf they don't do those tricks. 

BTW - you do know they are skate tricks being incorporated into surfing - a complete turnaround to the beginnings of contemporary skating when skaters copied surfing.  I don't have an issue with it.
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I loved it.

I like both styles, but I love innovation in a sport!


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Im a huge fan of Terry Fitzgerald, knowing this is a USA forum but, he rides and speaks so much truth. To me, these things are circus tricks but, surfing is always an individual affair, so all well and good if you can


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