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RagahRagah

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Hey, all. I used to skate a lot back in the day. I'm old, an early 30-something, but still want to get a new setup to skate with my girl every now and then, especially considering there is a skate park two blocks from my house in the subdivision we just moved into.

Anyway, I wasnt really knowledgeable about what I had back in the day, which was unfortunate, and I mostly had setups that weren't right for me in retrosepct. I'm more aware now, but not in touch with the current scene so I have some questions about gear for a new setup.

To start off, I'm a little dude with not a lot of power. I need an obviously smaller, lightweight deck that manages to be durable (Element, perhaps?). What company would someone recommend and about what size deck? I've never been a big trickster but I can do a few. Same question goes for trucks; something sleek but lightweight? Are risers still a good idea? And has anything changed since the days of abec 7 bearings? Smaller wheels (52 Mm?) still the way to go?

Hope for some advice on a setup and some concrete numbers/measurements to get the most desired results from my setup that compliments me most. Thanks!
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Welcome Matt.  We do have an intro thread, but you did pretty well here with some personal intel, so all good to me.  Where do you live?
This is an old school crowd, Dogtown era and all mostly, but anybody is welcome.  Of course this is Wes's house, and we all believe in his art, and his decks.
You will get the BEST advice here, but it will dive you down to BDS decks.  There some great decks here for smaller guys, and they are more park specific, so keep asking questions.  You might start by researching the different size decks here, and ask folks questions.  The Sacred Heart might be a good start to check out.  You can find out of production decks here in the BST page, but you will need to hang around for a little bit before you can use it.
So welcome aboard and enjoy the ride!  You may become addicted here, and there is NO cure!

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Welcome.  Like Dave said, we're not really a popsicle stick deck crowd here.  We like shaped pool and park boards with square tails and Wes' art, usually 10" wide and up.  Also, most of us ride wheels no smaller than 60mm in diameter.  Trucks are usually wider Indys or Trackers or Ace. 

For smaller decks with Wes' art, check out the bomb shaped decks (Shogo Pineapple, 2014 bomb shape with Ram art and Beamer Bomb with cock fight graphics) or the "Unholy Grail" or the Bart Saric deck.  These decks are still 9+ inches wide though.  If you really want a popsicle deck, Wes did Mark Gonzales tribute art for Real and Real put that on some popsicle stick decks.  That was some time ago, but there may still be some around.  Wes did a few popsicles for BDS (Buddy Carr, Stoney Shadler, Wicked Skills and Joker), but that was a long time ago.  But, again, there may still be some around. 

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By the way, I see you're from Illinois.  I'm in Milwaukee and there's a skate shop here with a good combination of new and old school gear.  They have been around a long time and the owner is a really decent guy and knowledgeable.  He can also order what you want if he doesn't have it in the store.
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By the way, I see you're from Illinois. 



Illinois

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Soon to be the 11th recreational marijuana state

I've heard stories about those Chicagoans....................



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Yeah, I'm definitely looking for standard stuff. Hard to find active skating forums anymore so am hoping some peeps around here have an idea.
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Matt you mentioned you did a few tricks. What style of skating do you want to set up for? downhill, street freestyle, or bowls or a little bit of everything? Having an idea of the style goes a long way in determining the gear. 


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Matt sounds like you are after a more modern popsicle shaped deck rather than the usual banquet of Pool/Pig/Shaped boards that are the norm here at BDS.

If that is the case then you might want to look at the Powel Flight decks or the just released Santa Cruz VX series that are both marketed as extra tough/longer lasting decks but at a higher price than a standard wood popsicle. As for trucks you can’t go wrong with a set of Independent trucks which are available in a lighter version known as Hollows. There are Titanium trucks out there that are lighter than a standard truck again at extra cost.

I don’t really think we can size a set up for you without knowing what type of skating you do and it’s really going to be down to what feels right to you. Just match truck axle width to the width of the deck for a good stable platform.

Wheels are really a choice of small which are lighter but slower for freestyle/trick/street terrain or bigger for more speed greater width more suited to transition skating or street cruising/rough terrain.

Best idea would be to either try a few different set ups at your local Skatepark of go to a decent Skateshop for on the spot advice.

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Yeah, I'm pretty much just a street skater but just a casual one at that. I don't put much wear-and-tear my board outside of doing Caspers on a regular basis. I'm looking for something light and small that can get the most pop and height. I would assume with my size and limitations I don't need much else more special than that.
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Illinois

The state with two seasons - winter and construction

Soon to be the 11th recreational marijuana state

I've heard stories about those Chicagoans....................




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Definitely winter and construction here too.  Now they're looking for ways to fund all that road obstruction (I mean, construction) since we don't have toll roads.  They're talking about a mileage tax now, which would either be on the honor system or by a devise put in your car.  Yeah, that's going over really well.  And, how does that put any of the tax burden on out of staters (Illinois) who use our roads?  Ridiculous.


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The guys I know who ride popsicles and who are closer to your age are riding boards by Deluxe (Anti-Hero, Real, etc.) or Creature or 1031 or even just shop decks.  There are a lot of choices for that type of board.  It usually comes down to subtle things, like kick angle, where the kick starts in relation to the truck mounts, wheelbase, widths available, etc.  Honestly, to me, there's not much difference when it comes to 7 ply boards in the popsicle shape.  There are very few of us who ride those kinds of boards so I don't think we can be of that much help.  If you want advice on those boards, you would be probably better off on an appropriate Facebook group or just at your local skate shop.  Just know that when you ask for advice on setups, you are going to get A LOT of different opinions.  People always recommend what works best for them personally.  You will not likely find any kind of consensus on what you "should" be riding. 

The best advice, and it has already been stated, is go to your local skate park and get to know some of the skaters.  See what they are riding and then even ask if you can try it out.  Just demo as many different setups as you can.  Of course, keep in mind that even small things, like the bushings being used and how tight somebody rides their trucks will make a big difference on how a setup feels to you.   

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welcome Matt 


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btw it's funny that you think 30 ish is old [thumb][thumb]

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Just to add, risers are definitely still a thing, as they help prevent wheelbite, which is still a thing, depending on your taste for truck looseness. Another cure for wheelbite is bushing hardness. Check out Khiro bushings. They come in all sizes, colors and duros’.


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Hey, all. I used to skate a lot back in the day. I'm old, an early 30-something, but still want to get a new setup to skate with my girl every now and then, especially considering there is a skate park two blocks from my house in the subdivision we just moved into.

Anyway, I wasnt really knowledgeable about what I had back in the day, which was unfortunate, and I mostly had setups that weren't right for me in retrosepct. I'm more aware now, but not in touch with the current scene so I have some questions about gear for a new setup.

To start off, I'm a little dude with not a lot of power. I need an obviously smaller, lightweight deck that manages to be durable (Element, perhaps?). What company would someone recommend and about what size deck? I've never been a big trickster but I can do a few. Same question goes for trucks; something sleek but lightweight? Are risers still a good idea? And has anything changed since the days of abec 7 bearings? Smaller wheels (52 Mm?) still the way to go?

Hope for some advice on a setup and some concrete numbers/measurements to get the most desired results from my setup that compliments me most. Thanks!
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The Unholy Grail is popsicle-ish.....and I have one !!! 😉
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THIS IS TONYB'S PHOTO !!!

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