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buymedrinky2000

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I am redoing my backyard ramp this sumer and need any info regarding surfaces...THE BEST???? skatelite?? what is it and how much and where to purchase??? the ramp is open to the elements all year long so whatever the cover is it must hold up...money is no object as i want the best surface to ride on....please help an oldman...love kuch
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skatelite is a good surface but it runs around $150 a sheet. your best bet for outside is nice sanded plywood. masonite is the cheapest surface at around $6 a sheet, but it will need to be replaced often, cause when it gets water-logged it warps and wrinkles a little. plywood will hold up the best.
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I would go with a finished 1/4" plywood. One side is smooth and one side is rough, use the smooth side...
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Indeed, FOS and the S-man are correct.
Even a finish grade sheet of ply is way less costly than a sheet of skatelite.
When I get my ramp this year (hopefully from a defunct nearby skatepark) I'm going to experiment w/ one of the Thompson's products. I remember one of them being real rubbery when dry from back in my days of painting houses.

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thanks all....can I paint or stain the surface of the plywood??? I think so huh.....stained will look cool rather than bare sheets.....kuch
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white paint looks cool too. it gets nice wheel marks and such. stain will work too. some sort of surface protectant would be good in the outdoors, to keep the water off and stuff.
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if money is really no object and you want the BEST riding surface, go for crete. will last longer than any wood or whatever and who would rather skate wood than crete?
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Go with skatelite for your finish layer if money is no object and you want the best. skatelite can be purchased for less then $90-100 per sheet ($150??? you got hosed)don't waste your time with Masonite unless it will NEVER get wet. Plywood is ok...but it buckles and ripples after a short period of time no matter what you paint it with. If you must use plywood for your finish layer, go for a marine grade plywood. It is the only plywood that will stand up to the abuse for any length of time. CDX plywood is exterior and works great for the underlying sheeting, but it sucks for the final layer...lots of knot holes and lumps and also delams with use. Rolling those little hard wheels back and forth just tears plywood apart. 1/4" plywood might last you one good summer of heavy use, 3/8" is better but harder to get much of a bend out of. It also depends on how solid your under laying layers are, any movement at all between layers and they will start to come apart.
Skatelite is by far the best. the ramp in town is going on it's 7th year of sitting out in the elements. and we get LOTS of rain up here. A few of the sheets are starting to delam, but it was the fault of poor workmanship in attaching down the sheets.
Painting...DO NOT use a gloss paint unless you like to slip slide around a lot. Find a dull, flat paint and maybe toss in a couple of handfulls of super fine sand to give it some grip. A painted surface might hold up to the elements a little longer...but your going to hate how slippery it is.
My advice...put a roof over it or go with the skatelite.

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This is interesting. I was wondering how much Skatelite cost. I guess it's too much for my blood. Would be cool though.

As far a painting goes. I've done the paint route. I think with some exterior flat latex was the best. It seemed to allow the plywood to last a bit longer. I tried Thompson's and it was real easy to apply (like water) but it was oily and slick as hell for about a month after I applied it. It finally got grippy but I'm sure that's because we had worn it all off. It didn't seem to hold up any better than just leaving it alone. Maybe Thompson's have come out with something different now.

Stain seems like it might be good but again it might be slick. But it would penetrate the wood and you could tell where it needed touched up because of the color.

I pretty much resigned myself to putting on a new surface every year and leaving it bare as far as a coating goes.

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if your using ply wood be sure to stain it with the water protection stuff, and well, when i get my ramp dont because money is an object not only am i going to stain it but im gonna spray it with fabric sealer so the water slides right off, now thats how the west was one
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I agree with you on NOT using the Thompson's Mine was so slick for quite awhile(Month or so) I wished I had never put it on. It also seemed to attract dirt like a magnet. My kids enjoyed it because they could slide on it so well. I'm using a outdoor deck paint used for high traffic areas as used on decking. Seems to be working great so far. Here in Houston things can be a bit humid and I found putting on a base layer of stuff called Kilz it seems to be keeping the deterioration down of the wood. It seems to be also keeping the mold from forming. Hey it is DAMP HERE! When I lived in So-Cal I never had to worry about that stuff. Ramp is 7 ft. high, with a foot of vert on both sides of the half pipe.

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Paint both sides of the wood if you can, but most importantly the open edges of the plywood( if thats what you choose) Water seems to cause the most damage to the wood starting at the edges.
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I used pressure treated lumber for all supports, undertreatment, etc... I contacted a few local park builders and got a few sheets of skatelite off of them for around 70-75 each.

Call around it is worth the time. The skatelite works out really well and holds up to the Ohio rains and snow.

Might have to start calling around again. My oldest wants to make the ramp bigger if he can talk mom into it :-)
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careful with that pressure treated stuff, its cancer causing if you touch it too much or get the sawdust in your lungs.
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so is skateboarding, cancer causing that is
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