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TonyB

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Hey socalman, I was very happy to find your post and this thread (good info & pic, Palydaxjones). The trucks you describe sound like the pair that came with an old complete that I bought from eBay last spring; I have been searching for info since. At this point I'm wondering if they may be impostors. I read an old Tracker add on calstreets.com that included, "Beware, there are some very close copies of our fine trucks, even to using our name. Always get your Trackers from one of our authorized dealers." I also noticed that the pic posted by ouch has no hole in the base-plate for the king-pin, where mine do. Hmm...    Thanks, WAW

Oh boy do you need some education......

Just read the previous replys you will get the idea.

Trackers had kingpins that were cast in to the baseplate and were not removable, when they first came out. Removable kingpins like yours came much later on.

There is nothing suspicious about socalman's trucks they are very early examples.

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First off Cheers to my brothers! - Nice to see this thread getting some attention.  I'll get some pictures up of the Ful Tracks - they're very early trackers with threaded axels. Like I said originally - I bought them with a set of RR 6's - and the pictures on eBay made the trucks to be "throw ins" -  Rusted, missing bushings...  I've sprayed the trucks with WD-40, and placed them in plastic bag...  Its been over a month - so maybe its time to pull out - wire brush - and buff out. I'll post pictures - if I fugure out how to do it too!
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Oh boy do you need some education......

Just read the previous replys you will get the idea.

Trackers had kingpins that were cast in to the baseplate and were not removable, when they first came out. Removable kingpins like yours came much later on.

There is nothing suspicious about socalman's trucks they are very early examples.


Thank you, that's why I'm here
I have, and found them very informative
I didn't see that the type of king-pin (cast vs. removable) of socalman's trucks was established.
Every item in socalman's description of his trucks matches mine. I believe that we have the same trucks and am just trying to participate in their identification.
Are you saying that we have very early examples of trucks that came much later?

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Leave it to the Pimp..
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Yeah Pimp, Nuts On! literally! Same hanger/Axel, same base plate.

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PIMP Z MAN! GREAT PICTURE.

HERE's ANOTHER COOL PICTURE TO ADD TO THIS TRACKER HISTORY THREAD. AN OG MAG TRACK BASEPLATE vs THE RE-ISSUE WITH THE REMOVABLE KING PIN. TRACKER HAD TO TAKE ALL THE OLD BASEPLATES & RE-DRILL THEM. THANKS TO BUDDY CARR!!

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Are you saying that we have very early examples of trucks that came much later?



Certainly early trucks for wheels that had loose ball bearings. As soon as precision sealed bearings came out the threaded axles were dropped. I'm not sure exactly how long that took but probably no more than 6-12 months. Also later on the size of the pivot on the hanger changed to a bigger pivot (gnarly pivot), then after the kingpins were made removable due to breakage.

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Hello, I posted few replies back my humble
collection of Trackers: FUL, MID, HAF...
As stated, per my  limited research using Skateboarder Mag
the wider Tracker Truck was the first Tracker issued and
issued  approx 1976-ish (??).....
Is it the same width axle end to axle end as it was when named
Ful tracker 1977-79?? Approx 6 7/8 axle end to axle end???

I attached a close up of my very early fully threaded Tracker with
grey bushings.. Like the Pimps (??) But his has the parts still
on the axles for loose bearings!! Very cool...
I suspect mine were used for newly issued sealed Road Rider 2s
back in the day!!   Unlike his which were still being used for those
loose bearing dinasauer cadillac wheels  
Just having fun and being jealous!! And  yes attached to the bottom is
what I paid, when I paid... So just like my stock/bond portfolio I know
how much I lost in value someday  $35 for set, seller had lousy picture,
lousy description, and was Oct 2008 as world was just starting to end...
I felt immune at the time, now I have a pretty good fevor. No signs of
death or blotches yet though :----------------) Hoping my stimulus
medicine works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  



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PIMP Z MAN! GREAT PICTURE.

HERE's ANOTHER COOL PICTURE TO ADD TO THIS TRACKER HISTORY THREAD. AN OG MAG TRACK BASEPLATE vs THE RE-ISSUE WITH THE REMOVABLE KING PIN. TRACKER HAD TO TAKE ALL THE OLD BASEPLATES & RE-DRILL THEM. THANKS TO BUDDY CARR!!


Tracker was doing removable kingpins in 1987 ....(if my scanner was working i'd post the literature I have from Tracker but i'll just write it verbatim)  my mags from the mid 80's had removable kingpins.....

Tracker introduced in:  (timeline)
1975:
 Fixed king pin stud
Standardized 4 hole mounting pattern
Aircraft locknuts

1977:
Lightweight rigid "space" pad
Stiff laminated wood skateboard decks

1978:
Copers
Coned outer grommet and cap washer
Gnarly pivot cups

1979:
Magnesiums trucks

1980:
Lappers

1982:
Ultralite baseplates

1987:
removable king pins




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Tracker introduced in:  (timeline)

1978:
Copers
Coned outer grommet and cap washer
Gnarly pivot cups

So, Copers on small pivot Trackers would not be "period correct?"


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What would collecting be if not for variations? Anyone know where these fall in the time-line?
These trucks match the pix from palydax and pimp (thanks guys) except for the hole in the base-plate below the king-pin.



I know, I know, the Doh-Doh's gotta go (along with the washer); fultracks weren't like that.


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Tracker introduced in:  (timeline)

1978:
Copers
Coned outer grommet and cap washer
Gnarly pivot cups

So, Copers on small pivot Trackers would not be "period correct?"



sorry i don't have that answer...i'm just regurgitating what this Tracker literature states....i do know that they made mid, full, ex-, & 6track copers....
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There were copers for halftracks?  I don't remember those???


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There were copers for halftracks?  I don't remember those???



No, just mids,fulls and extrtracks. The sixtracks used an additional plastic washer/spacer., but the coper itself was the same as the extrack coper.
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