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True facts about Ocean Radiation and the Fukushima Disaster


http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/


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Interesting article and good to read something less alarming, but I am a little skeptical of the author's conclusions.  First, she seems to assume that there was a one time emission of radiation at the time of the tsunami, but doesn't address the continual leaking of radiation into the ocean, which seems to be well documented.  It appears someone called her on that in the comments and she addressed it in an update.  In the update, she acknowledges that the "groundwater leaks are problematic," but concludes that it's still not enough radiation to be hazardous to consumers of seafood caught near Alaska, the west coast and Hawaii.  IMHO, I think she is probably way underestimating how long the groundwater has been leaking into the ocean and, perhaps, how concentrated it is.  I have nothing to back that up, mind you, except for the fact that it is obvious to all that TEPCO has consistently failed to disclose what is really going on there. 

One other thing the author says is that the radioactive fallout collects on the ocean floor.  This is totally contrary to the National Geographic article and other accounts of scientists who have stated that the radioactive isotopes float in the water column and can, therefore, travel long distances in ocean currents and be absorbed through the gills of fish swimming through the water column. 

One other thing I thought was weird was her casual writing style and kind of flippant treatment of the subject.  It just doesn't sound very "scientific" and calls into question her credibility.  On the other hand, I appreciated that she dumbed down the subject a little so a dummy like me could understand it a little better. 

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Good point.  I saw a lot about the floating oil barriers they put up to protect Gulf shorelines and the use of chemical oil dispersants (those can't be good for you either).  Also, saw a map of the currents showing how all the dispersed oil traveled around the tip of Florida and then north and out into the Atlantic.  But who knows if that is accurate and if it is, what it means??  The dilution solution is enough?  I think I'm still more worried about Pacific seafood than Gulf shrimp.  But, who can even find Gulf shrimp in local groceries stores these days?  It's all from Thailand and Indonesia.  What up with that?
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gotta buy shit from the U.S.!  farmed shit is bad, if my oysters are glowing like a set of lime green Shogos is it still safe to consume?
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Fukushima radiation could reach Pacific coast by April


http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Fukushima-radiation-could-reach-Pacific-coast-by-5264277.php#src=fb


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Buesseler said no federal or international agencies are monitoring ocean waters from Fukushima on this side of the Pacific, so he has organized volunteer monitors at 16 sites along the California and Washington coasts and two in Hawaii to collect seawater in 20-liter specialized plastic containers and ship them by UPS to his Woods Hole laboratory.
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That's no joke with the Geiger counter or whatever device that is.  They have them in fish markets in Korea so consumers can test before they buy.  There seems to be doubt as to how accurate that kind of testing is, though.
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The article is actually longer than this, with copies of some of the e-mails.  Full text is here http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/u-s-nuclear-agency-hid-concerns-hailed-safety-record-fukushima-n48561.


U.S. Nuclear Agency Hid Concerns, Hailed Safety Record as Fukushima Melted

The emails, obtained via the Freedom of Information Act, show that the campaign to reassure the public about America’s nuclear industry came as the agency’s own experts were questioning U.S. safety standards and scrambling to determine whether new rules were needed to ensure that the meltdown occurring at the Japanese plant could not occur here.

At the end of that long first weekend of the crisis three years ago, Scott Burnell, a manager in the agency’s media and public relations wing, thanked his colleagues for sticking to the talking points that his team had been distributing to senior officials and the public.

"While we know more than these say," Burnell wrote, "we're sticking to this story for now."

There are numerous examples in the emails of apparent misdirection or concealment in the initial weeks after the Japanese plant was devastated by a 9.0 earthquake and 50-foot tsunami that knocked out power and cooling systems at the six-reactor plant, eventually causing releases of radioactive material:

  • Trying to distance the U.S. agency from the Japanese crisis, an NRC manager told staff to hide from reporters the presence of Japanese engineers in the NRC's operations center in Maryland.
  • If asked whether the Diablo Canyon Power Plant on the California coast could withstand the same size tsunami that had hit Japan, spokespeople were told not to reveal that NRC scientists were still studying that question. As for whether Diablo could survive an earthquake of the same magnitude, "We're not so sure about, but again we are not talking about that," said one email.
  • When skeptical news articles appeared, the NRC dissuaded news organizations from using the NRC's own data on earthquake risks at U.S. nuclear plants, including the Indian Point Energy Center near New York City.
  • And when asked to help reporters explain what would happen during the worst-case scenario -- a nuclear meltdown -- the agency declined to address the questions.

As the third anniversary of Fukushima on Tuesday approaches, the emails pull back the curtain on the agency’s efforts to protect the industry it is supposed to regulate. The NRC officials didn't lie, but they didn't always tell the whole truth either. When someone asked about a topic that might reflect negatively on the industry, they changed the subject.

NBC News requested in late March 2011 all of the emails sent and received by certain NRC staffers during the first week of the crisis. Other news organizations and watchdogs filed similar requests. The NRC has now been posting thousands of emails in its public reading room over the past two years.

The NRC declined to discuss specific emails or communications. But NRC Public Affairs Director Eliot Brenner provided an emailed statement: "The NRC Office of Public Affairs strives to be as open and transparent as possible, providing the public accurate information in the proper context. We take our communication mission seriously. We did then and we do now. The frustration displayed in the chosen e-mails reflects more on the extreme stress our team was under at the time to assure accuracy in a context in which information from Japan was scarce to nonexistent. These e-mails fall well short of an accurate picture of our communications with the American public immediately after the event and during the past three years."

Dating back to the Three Mile Island nuclear crisis in 1979, many nuclear watchdogs and critics have said that the NRC acts first to protect the industry, and its own reputation. One critic said these emails solidify that perception.

"The NRC knew a lot more about what was going on than it wanted to tell the American people," said Edwin Lyman, senior scientist at the nuclear watchdog group Union of Concerned Scientists and co-author of the new book "Fukushima: The Story of a Nuclear Disaster," which relied on some of the same emails. "They immediately put out information that implied that U.S. reactors were in a better position to withstand Fukushima type events than Fukushima reactors were, but it was clear that the what the NRC knew internally was not nearly as positive."


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"The NRC officials didn't lie, but they didn't always tell the whole truth either. When someone asked about a topic that might reflect negatively on the industry, they changed the subject." 

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Thats a lot of sushi!  [rofl]


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Japan Tells Fukushima Residents Area Will be Safe by 2021

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Residents who abandoned their homes after Japan's catastrophic Fukushima nuclear disaster will be able to return in 2021, according to government estimates reported on Tuesday. A team in charge of helping victims of the disaster say that cleanup efforts and “natural decontamination effects” will likely cut radiation doses by up to 76 percent in “difficult-to-return” areas, Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported.

But Jin Kowata, a local official, told the newspaper he was skeptical. "The results are too optimistic,” he said. “I want [the central government] to release more accurate estimates for the nearer future instead of the ones for 10 years after the disaster.” The earthquake and tsunami that hit Fukushima on March 11, 2011, killed more than 18,000 people and triggered a nuclear crisis.

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nightly-news/has-radiation-entered-our-food-supply-chain-186350659645




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‘The Great Fish Swap’: How America Is Downgrading Its Seafood Supply


http://blogs.kqed.org/bayareabites/2014/07/01/the-great-fish-swap-how-america-is-downgrading-its-seafood-supply/

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Wow, that's even more messed up than I thought.  Best bet is probably a small, local seafood shop if you live on a coast.  Otherwise, who knows what you're getting.


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In fact, 91 percent of the seafood Americans eat comes from abroad, but one-third of the seafood Americans catch gets sold to other countries.

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